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Old 01-28-2009, 12:16 AM   #131
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Lot of 2 Gordos GA5-2D25 25 Amp Solid State Relays - eBay (item 140244750317 end time Feb-21-09 17:27:14 PST)

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Old 01-28-2009, 02:39 AM   #132
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Old 01-28-2009, 03:48 AM   #133
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So here is the deal on your question. You can program the BCS-460 with a timer to limmit your cycle duration. So for instance, you have the level sensor set two inches above the grain bed, and you want it to get no lower than an inch above the grain bed. When the water falls bellow the the sensor, the timer is triggered, the amount of time that it takes to get to you one inch above the grain bed, becomes the cycle time. Did I answer your question? If you want a better explanation just let me know. S.
Thanks slnies; got ya covered on what you explained, simple (like me) and effective works best. The more I read about the BCS the more I can not understand why people are wasting money on PID's, gas valves, pilot lights and spark ignition systems when an all electic heating and a BCS-460 is all that is needed. Thanks.
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:18 AM   #134
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Thanks Adam, looking forward to these spinal injections next monday if they will help. Up until 3:30am to 5:00am then down, up at 7:00am i'm at my pain limits. I'll ASAP square away with you with this purchase. All I can say at the at the moment besides your a true gentleman towards me. Thanks. Carl.....
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Old 01-29-2009, 02:50 PM   #135
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No, You would actually need two. You would need a output to control your gas/pilot valve system on the HLT and an output to control the pump for the recirc. through the HERMS for the MLT. You could set the system up a couple of different ways. You could leave the circ. pump on constantly and step temperatures with the HLT or you could set the HLT to one temp, say 160F and use the pump for control of the temperature in the MLT. One is not better than the other in my opinion. Either way you have a completely automated mash. S.
I turn the pump on and off to maintain temp, works great. I did a step mash last time I brewed. This little black box rocks.
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Old 01-29-2009, 07:52 PM   #136
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Adam and slnies; so far everythings under control as well the timer delay Adam stated the 460 can control from the stainless LED level control probe. I understand this being an electrician. Tell me if i'm right or wrong here on one probe I will have to add to before order time when i'm able to get up and become mobile again.

Questions:This will be a HERMS system so the four 4" long probes will be used. One in the HLT, one in the HERMS coil output before flowing to the MLT, one probe at the bottom of the MLT near the outlet of the MLT headed back to the HLT coil inlet and one probe for the boil kettle. All these at 4" long. Would I gain anything by using a 6" long probe instead of a 4" probe at the bottom of the MLT near the outlet fitting heading back to the coil in the HLT?
Would a 6" get a better signal or reading of the mash being 2" deeper inside the MLT vs a 4" probe at this outlet at the bottom of the MLT? Thanks as everyone's been great. Note; all I need is a new back then i'm ready to construct my crazy brewing project.
Take care all. Carl........

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Old 01-29-2009, 11:05 PM   #137
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Questions:This will be a HERMS system so the four 4" long probes will be used. One in the HLT, one in the HERMS coil output before flowing to the MLT, one probe at the bottom of the MLT near the outlet of the MLT headed back to the HLT coil inlet and one probe for the boil kettle. All these at 4" long. Would I gain anything by using a 6" long probe instead of a 4" probe at the bottom of the MLT near the outlet fitting heading back to the coil in the HLT?
Would a 6" get a better signal or reading of the mash being 2" deeper inside the MLT vs a 4" probe at this outlet at the bottom of the MLT? Thanks as everyone's been great. Note; all I need is a new back then i'm ready to construct my crazy brewing project.
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Well, Big Dog, You have the general idea. As far as placement of all the probes; I agree with all but the last in the MLT: the one at the bottom. This is purely a matter of personal perspective though. I would go with a six inch probe here, and then place it six inches off the bottom, or about the mid point on the MLT, dependent on your average mash size. My reason is that I think you will get a better mash temp that is more representative of the whole mass as opposed to a cooler temp of the wort closer to a surface on the way out. The temp differential may only be a few degrees, but then again, if you want to know that temp, just watch the manifold probe. It will cycle a few degrees, the cooler temp being what is at the bottom as this is what will trigger the PID to to turn on and off.

The short answer is it would be well worth your money to get the longer probe. It is really up to you on how you want to place it. In reality, my comment on top aside, where you want to put the probe is fine as well. I have been know to split hairs before, and this one might be one of them. S.
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slnies; actually I do see a flaw in my own design as you stated, the main mass temp at the bottom were I stated the 6" probe would be is in the wrong location. Better to read the mash temp like you stated at least 6" up from the bottom to get a more true mass temp reading besides going in deeper with a 6" instead of the 4" probe, the longer probe will read deeper mash temps for a better overall mash mass temp. You know these kegs are different? PM will be sent in a few minutes don't go away as I want to touch base with you. On the MLT the pump will be running all the time just throttled down to the proper flow for the HERMS to operate properly.
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BrewBeemer,

Question about how you are planing to use a temp prob on the outflow of your herms. Is your coil inside the HLT or a seperate pot. thanks

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I turn the pump on and off to maintain temp, works great. I did a step mash last time I brewed. This little black box rocks.
Excellent! It is great to read about your success. Tell me how your beer turns out when its finished. S.
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