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Old 09-23-2009, 07:46 PM   #1
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Am I missing any options in the title? I'm trying to determine what the best method for hop filtering is to drain the kettle through a ball valve. I brew IPA's a lot and as a result use lots of hops (leaf and pellet; sometimes both, sometimes only one type). So what is the best idea/design for this purpose? I really don't want to spend for the hop stopper.

Would something like Orfy's set up work best? I'm really not all that concerned about some pellet muck getting into the fermenter, but will it drain through that scrubbie if there is a lot of hop pellet junk? Or will it clog?

I have used the suspended hop sack a few times and really noticed a significant drop in hop utilization on those brews. It is extremely convenient but not worth the loss in that regard IMO.

Would it be best to just whirlpool successfully and drain through the ball valve w/o a filter?

Thanks for any suggestions.
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in my experience, the best solution i have found has been a combined whirlpool and bazooka-type screen. without a whirlpool, the bazooka-style screens clog very easily.

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I've used the hop sacks before, but I've been curious lately whether the hops would settle out enough in primary not to even worry about it.

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Im about to chuck my bazooka as it makes it more difficult when it comes to cooling time with my IC. I dont really care about trub in my fermenter as it all settles and I rack off the beer anyway. And yes, most of the hop trub settles or gets stuck on the side of the fermenter as well.
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in my experience, the best solution i have found has been a combined whirlpool and bazooka-type screen. without a whirlpool, the bazooka-style screens clog very easily.
That's what I'm afraid of, but there has to be a better way. Can anyone vouch for the copper pipe with small holes method? I can't imagine that would work any better.
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Am I missing any options in the title? I'm trying to determine what the best method for hop filtering is to drain the kettle through a ball valve. I brew IPA's a lot and as a result use lots of hops (leaf and pellet; sometimes both, sometimes only one type). So what is the best idea/design for this purpose? I really don't want to spend for the hop stopper.

Would something like Orfy's set up work best? I'm really not all that concerned about some pellet muck getting into the fermenter, but will it drain through that scrubbie if there is a lot of hop pellet junk? Or will it clog?

I have used the suspended hop sack a few times and really noticed a significant drop in hop utilization on those brews. It is extremely convenient but not worth the loss in that regard IMO.

Would it be best to just whirlpool successfully and drain through the ball valve w/o a filter?

Thanks for any suggestions.
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Are you using the cloth hop sacks or the 5 gal paint strainers? I've got the same problem as you and I've read a lot on the site about using a 5 gal paint strainer bag and how you get much better hop utilization out of that because the hops are still free floating and not so tightly packed together.

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Are you using the cloth hop sacks or the 5 gal paint strainers? I've got the same problem as you and I've read a lot on the site about using a 5 gal paint strainer bag and how you get much better hop utilization out of that because the hops are still free floating and not so tightly packed together.

I've been using the 5G paint strainers, suspended above the kettle via the plastic PVC collar, etc. I even make sure the bag is completely submerged by putting a piece of copper in the bottom. Still I had massive hop utilization problems, probably because my kettle is so wide. I'm quite convinced I don't want to use a hop sack anymore. I'm a total hophead, and lacking that hop punch is something I desperately want to avoid.
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I use a bazooka, but I've seen some incredible piles of hops on a hop stopper. Figure it has 10 times the straining area of a bazooka. I'm building one out of two splatter screens.

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I use a false bottom in my keggle. Works like a champ. I also whirlpool. Significant amounts of pellet hop debris will pass through the false bottom, but most of that accumulates in a pile around the siphon tube. Some inevitably makes it to the fermenter, but that doesn't worry me at all. Whole hops get pretty much completely strained out by the FB. When I was using a smaller kettle with a spigot, I simply whirlpooled the wort and after waiting 10 minutes or so drained through the spigot without any kind of screen or strainer.

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I'm going with the home made hop stopper. I've read too many threads about how awesome they are. Check out Bobby M's sig and you can see how to make one and part codes. If you don't want to spend the time, then I would buy a hop stopper. I like the home made version because you can size it to fit your kettle.

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