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SuperiorBrew 01-11-2008 10:22 PM

Asco Red Hat Valves
 
Are these the right ones? I want to start getting the stuff I need to automate my rig.

ASCO RED HAT 8316G54 VALVE LOT OF 2 NEW
AIR, INERT GAS PSI 10- 150
WATER PSI 10-125
PIPE 3/8 IN
6.1 WATTS 60HZ
8.1 WATTS 50HZ
SHELF # 226 JW
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billtzk 01-11-2008 11:51 PM

I got the Asco 8210G15 valves. I bought mine new old stock from an Ebay store for $72 each. Mine are two way 1/2 inch valves.

The one you have are three way 3/8th inch valves. See EDIT below. I don't really understand how a three way valve works but I'm sure someone will enlighten me. Which way does the flow go? From 1 to 2 or from 2 to 1? If the former, then it might support an ignition pilot burner, but if the latter, then I presume it is a mixing valve.

Some 8316Gxx info I found says it requires a 10 PSI minimum operating differential. Not sure what that means either.

EDIT

I don't think this type of valve is what you want based on this description of 3 way valve operation.

mr x 01-12-2008 12:12 AM

They look good to me, but I'm not sure what you want to do with them. There are many ASCO valves.

SuperiorBrew 01-12-2008 01:25 AM

How about these?

SET of 2 each. (Two Valves) NEW
Part number: 8210G37
Stainless Steel
120 V 60 Hz.
ASCO Solenoid Valve 1/2"
Specifications :

ASCO Red Hat general purpose 2-way normally closed stainless steel solenoid valves will provide On/Off control of air, inert gas, water, and other clean flowing media compatible with the materials of construction.
Type: 2-Way Normally Closed (energize to open)
Construction: Stainless Steel 304 Body, NBR (buna-n) seals, other materials include PA (nylon), stainless steel 305, 430F, 302, and a silver shading ring

http://i4.ebayimg.com/08/i/000/c3/d5/39b9_1.JPG
http://i4.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/c3/d5/3a00_1.JPG

billtzk 01-12-2008 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperiorBrew
How about these?

SET of 2 each. (Two Valves) NEW
Part number: 8210G37
Stainless Steel
120 V 60 Hz.
ASCO Solenoid Valve 1/2"
Specifications :

ASCO Red Hat general purpose 2-way normally closed stainless steel solenoid valves will provide On/Off control of air, inert gas, water, and other clean flowing media compatible with the materials of construction.
Type: 2-Way Normally Closed (energize to open)
Construction: Stainless Steel 304 Body, NBR (buna-n) seals, other materials include PA (nylon), stainless steel 305, 430F, 302, and a silver shading ring

http://i4.ebayimg.com/08/i/000/c3/d5/39b9_1.JPG
http://i4.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/c3/d5/3a00_1.JPG

Those are exactly the same ones that colplink used on his original Brutus Ten. Very good valves. I looked for them, but couldn't find them for a good price. All the ones I could find were like $300 plus dollars each. They are stainless.

Now, you don't need stainless for a gas valve. The 8210G15 I got is exactly the same valve but in brass. Even so, the 8210G37 has extreme cool factor.

SuperiorBrew 01-12-2008 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billtzk
Those are exactly the same ones that colplink used on his original Brutus Ten. Very good valves. I looked for them, but couldn't find them for a good price. All the ones I could find were like $300 plus dollars each. They are stainless.

Now, you don't need stainless for a gas valve. The 8210G15 I got is exactly the same valve but in brass. Even so, the 8210G37 has extreme cool factor.

Are you using love controlers? If so what model?

billtzk 01-12-2008 01:59 AM

I'm not very original. I bought the exact ones listed in the 2007 November BYO article about Lonnie MacAllister's Brutus Ten ... The Love TS EW-93520-00. I bought them from Cole Parmer at that link there. Check out the reviews at the bottom of the page. All from brewers, and probably all because of the Brutus Ten.

Mine are not wired up yet because I haven't gotten to that part of my build. I'm still working on the stand, but it is almost done.

SuperiorBrew 01-12-2008 03:44 AM

Burners? 23 or 32 tip?

billtzk 01-12-2008 04:12 AM

20 jets. plus a pilot. eight inch natural gas. This one.

kladue 01-12-2008 04:23 AM

You might want to pass on the ASCO 8316 models as they are a 3 way and need at least 5 PSI differential to operate as they are a pilot operated type valve. Be careful with seat materials as Viton and teflon are normally used with hydrocarbons.


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