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09-15-2008, 04:28 AM
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Location: Atlanta, GA
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Which AG system should i go with?
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Ok it comes down to the BoilerMaker or the Regular Commercial kit.
15 Gallon All Grain Commercial Quality Kettle Kit :: Midwest Supplies Homebrewing and Winemaking Supplies
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15 Gallon BoilerMaker All Grain Equipment Kit :: Midwest Supplies Homebrewing and Winemaking Supplies
There is a HUGE price difference and I just don't know if it is worth going with the boilermaker. What would you guys do?
BTW: I know the boilermaker set is temproraly unavailable...i won't be brewing again probably til November anyway (my back can't take it anymore). Thats why i am looking for this stuff and then buying a pump to make my own little HERMS system so i don't have to lift anymore
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Is this guy serious??:
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Originally Posted by papabeach1
so barley is a leaves of hops? or barley is a different plant? and blend with hops? I need that to be cleared thanks..
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09-15-2008, 05:04 AM
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Well, the Boilermaker system comes with sparge equipment and sight glasses, optional on the "Commercial Quality" kit. The shape of the vessels is completely different as well; the Boilermaker kettles are much taller and narrower than the others, which changes the dynamics of the mash and boil.
I don't know if that's enough difference for you to justify the price difference.
Bob
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09-15-2008, 06:40 AM
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09-15-2008, 06:59 AM
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For the love of beer!
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Location: Cheshire, England
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Honestley!
Look how alot of us do it. If you are happy to DIY or find a local welder then it is worth building a couple of keggles. It'll be cheaper and you can have it how you want.
Buying a kit is convenient but 9 time out of ten it is an expensive compromise.
Saying that. I have been lucky. Both my kegglse have run at < $20 a piece.
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09-15-2008, 03:30 PM
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BIAB Haberdasher
Join Date: May 2007
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I'm confused...these kits include a HLT/kettle and a mash tun, only two vessels, not three?
At those prices?
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09-15-2008, 03:41 PM
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Yeah, the prices are way out of whack. Check out the link provided by WBC, and Austin Homebrew's kettles. I just purchased a 20 gal Boilermaker this morning (can't friggin wait!). But the rest, imho, is a little much. Get a Boilermaker with false bottom, and a 30-40 qt aluminim hot liquor tank and your set. Or, make your own MLT from a cooler. It's super cheap and really easy. And we're all here to help.
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09-15-2008, 03:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wilserbrewer
I'm confused...these kits include a HLT/kettle and a mash tun, only two vessels, not three?
At those prices?
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I'm with this guy, that much money it better be for a complete set up. I think i got less than the cheaper one in my set up, just counting kettle, MLT & HLT.
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09-16-2008, 01:51 AM
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I have an AG system already but want to upgrade so i dont have to lift and stuff and is more space convientent. I can't find any keggles in my area unless i buy one from ebay fro $110 :/
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Primary 1-This Bud's for you
Primary 2- Cream Ale
Secondary 1- Strong Scotch Ale
Secondary 2- empty
Bottled/Kegged- Centinneal Blonde, Apfelwein
Up Next- MyCastle (N.English Brown Ale), Hooch Pale Ale
Thinking About : Tripple Bock, Chocolate Stout, open to suggestions
"Every beer is a good beer if I can taste the brewer's intent"
-Jim Koch
Is this guy serious??:
Quote:
Originally Posted by papabeach1
so barley is a leaves of hops? or barley is a different plant? and blend with hops? I need that to be cleared thanks..
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09-16-2008, 03:20 AM
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Bier Jagdwaffe
Join Date: Feb 2006
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I like the BoilMakers false bottom design that's been always on my wish list.
Everything else no matter what brand of manufacture seems too high of price in my way of thinking. They are in it to make money, yours. For one thing those larger diameter boil kettles will boil off faster than the smaller openings of a converted keg with a 12" opening.
I still would look around for kegs and convert them besides they are thicker
gauge stainless and cheaper. Purchasing already converted kegs again too costly. Custom build to you needs and wants why give some manufactured system your money? Take your time and build your own the rewards are great. The money saved you can put towards a pump, stand and other needed items like a grain mill. JMO's.
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09-16-2008, 05:04 AM
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For the love of beer!
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Cheshire, England
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fat x nub
I have an AG system already but want to upgrade so i dont have to lift and stuff and is more space convientent. I can't find any keggles in my area unless i buy one from ebay fro $110 :/
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Can't you find kegs?
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