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Old 03-15-2007, 09:37 PM   #1
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OK, I can get a 5500 watt element for my electric heater project. That would mean I could heat 30 gallons in my HLT to 180 degrees in 1 hour and 41 minutes for less then 60 cents. The 4500 watt element I have will take 25 minutes longer. What do people think? Do I go for it?

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Old 03-15-2007, 10:45 PM   #2
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OK, I can get a 5500 watt element for my electric heater project. That would mean I could heat 30 gallons in my HLT to 180 degrees in 1 hour and 41 minutes for less then 60 cents. The 4500 watt element I have will take 25 minutes longer. What do people think? Do I go for it?

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Old 03-15-2007, 11:03 PM   #3
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Old 03-15-2007, 11:04 PM   #4
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Heres our thought on the 85g HLT were building. If you put the elements in the water bath, you will get lots of cold/hot spots. This makes temp. control difficult. You would then need to recir the water somehow and thermocouple or thermo placement would need to be placed after it gets conditioned by the elements. This in our thoughts is not a decent/effiecent design. So,
We are making a loop with SS tubing that can be broken down w/ TC connections. Water is pumped out of the HLT into a loop of 2 5500 watt 240v elements then returned back to the HLT. This will also be propane assisted. This is similiar to hot water on demand. What this does is make monitoring the water bath easier and w/o the cold/hot spots. I have a diagram of this at home (im at work now) but will post it tomorrow when i get home.

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Old 03-15-2007, 11:12 PM   #5
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85 gallon HLT? Why so small?

My HLT is also Propane heated (check out my gallery if you haven't seen what I am talking about) and I had thought of utilizing recirculation as well. The element attaches to a tri-clover T and with a valve on the outlet of the T, perfect for connecting to the pump and recirculating back through the top of the HLT. I want a simple turn on and come back to hot water HLT.

If you have wiring tips, especially related to setting up the 240 GFCI breaker I would appreciate it.

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Old 03-15-2007, 11:19 PM   #6
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I use a 240v 3kw heater in my HLT

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Old 03-15-2007, 11:47 PM   #7
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And your thoughts on it? 240 is the standard in England, correct?

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It's fine.
I just use it on 25L for mashing and sparging. Our 240 (standard) outlests are rated to around 15a amd the largest fuse fittable in the plug is 13amp

So if I got it right.

3000kw/240v = 12.5 amp.

I did have it fitted with a thermostat but it was inaccurate, so I just switch it off when it hits the required 77°C.

I guess if you fitted a second unit you could plug it into separate wall outlet.

In the US I guess it would be

5500/110 = 46 amps. Not sure how the outlets are rated in the US

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heres the design for the HLT. We have not tested it yet. The tank is currently getting a bottom skirt and fittings welded into it. Then i still need to wire in the 240v stuff into my main panel. The pump can be used for solar heat, geothermals, hydrolic heat, or domestic hot water recirculating. It will be plumbed in place w/ TC fittings and is a 16gpm rated at 230*, 150 psi.....The panel shows a ranco, but thats most likely wont use it but rather a PID.



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That's the same kind of pump used on older UK domestic heating installations.

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