As some of you guys know I've been around here for quite a while. Now I've seen a lot of stuff some things I liked and some I didn't. For the most part homebrewers and wine makers are nice people but as in everything there are those who don't play well with others. I joined HBT for one real reason comma (besides I liked the colors) and that was because it was an independent site. I didn't have to be shackled to one supplier or could not mention anything that wasn't kosher in a commercial setting....

sause